07:56:48 (-) Kitashi joined 09:44:50 hey Kitashi 09:55:14 wait 09:55:54 Kitashi: Hi! 09:56:01 HOLA! 09:57:51 good morning 09:58:09 grood morbing 09:58:16 Hello normally-quiet-channel 09:58:37 haha 09:58:39 i'm actually around now so 09:58:40 hi 09:59:10 i'm somewhat around 09:59:22 I'm always around! 09:59:28 Except those 3 hours a day I pretend to slp 09:59:30 sleep 10:01:12 slp is accurate 10:01:48 i got an extra couple hours of slp 10:01:53 called in sick to work 10:03:16 lucky 10:03:48 i should've done that yesterday, but 10:04:42 Kitashi: so what's it like working with yak 10:05:08 hahaha 10:05:25 more importantly, how the fuck did _you_ actually get to touch code 10:05:31 i nagged him so much 14:48:06 Delayed response because I left for class: Hi everyone! 14:48:14 catalepsy: There was no working. Only waiting. 14:48:38 i see 14:48:52 so wait did you get to see/touch the code at all?? 14:48:58 weykent: Honestly, I nagged Dragoneer instead 14:49:14 well okay 14:49:15 But yeah, I even made one or two changes to the live code. After waiting for yak to approve it :P 14:49:23 lmao you actually edited prod 14:49:32 When I quit staff, I literally had changes simply waiting to be approved and pushed live 14:49:40 They've probably since been deleted simply because I quit 14:49:47 well 14:49:50 we can test that hypothesis 14:49:52 what did you change? 14:50:07 i never tried nagging piche because piche is far more loathsome 14:50:29 The stuff I changed and actually got pushed live was, when you delete a submission on FA, you get taken back to the submission management page rather than getting sent to the main page (or whatever it sent you to before) 14:50:37 I nagged him a few times and he'd say "Ya let's get you in for ops things!" and then never do anything 14:50:55 The changes that didn't go live was, you can select multiple submission from the submission management page and move them all at once to gallery or scraps 14:51:24 There's another change that *might* go live simply because it was copied to the UI beta. New display of submission: click a button and choose what category of submissions show up for you on the front page 14:51:30 hahaha 14:51:35 Can be "all submissions," "photos only," "music only," etc 14:51:35 so no version control right 14:51:49 There's version control, and I used it to make my changes, but I didn't have access to actually push anything live 14:51:54 oic 14:51:59 And that's what I was waiting for for the few months up to quitting 14:52:44 color me impressed 14:52:52 it's just RCS though amirite 14:52:58 svn 14:53:13 of course 14:53:45 And all I was able to use it for was revision control of my own code. Trunks were set up at some point, and the "last" thing I was waiting for was the ability to actually push to the live site from the trunk 14:54:00 shame some of your stuff didnt go live, even if it was smaller tweaks 14:54:33 The fact that the smaller changes didn't go through is why I stopped making changes and started poking instead. 14:54:48 If the small stuff takes half a year to get looked at, the system's not working, and something needs to change 14:55:08 ah wow 14:55:19 Welcome to the long list of folks who have tried and burnt out on fixing FA 14:55:23 who actually makes code changes then 14:55:35 Ikani: Hehe, it's impossible to understand until you've been there yourself 14:55:50 yak and net-cat. They both have direct access to the site's live code 14:56:00 it looks like piche occasionally jacks off into the 'beta site UI' and yak breaks scrapers sometimes 14:56:06 net-cat actually does things?? 14:56:13 Yeah, net-cat's cool 14:56:18 maybe he's just really quiet about it 14:56:59 Well, I think it would be kind of odd if he, say, made a journal every time he made a code change or something :P 14:57:20 it's more of that FA never talks about things getting fixed 14:57:51 I was trying to fix that. I even made a public google drive document showing change logs shortly after my first changes went live. And then months passed and none of my changes were going through, so I eventually deleted it 14:57:56 they could have like a side-site or twitter for just dev stuff 14:58:19 "this was changed and fixed this" even ifi ts small things